Ep #31: Daily Dose of TOXINS: Part 2

Dr. Nicole & Grace are jumping straight back into the concerning daily dose of toxins that most people are unaware of in this episode of the Integrative Entrepreneur. The duo covers everything from powdered eggs to blue light & botox to collagen peptides. Listen now to hear how to detoxify from these everyday toxins.

“Coffee is one of the highest food products contaminated with mycotoxins. Mycotoxins are microscopic mold.”
-Grace Farren

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Noteworthy Time Stamps:

1:24 Diving straight into coffee concerns
4:15 Food storage & mold
6:00 We are what our food eats
10:16 Sad truth about eggs
11:00 Household items & outdoor toxins
13:00 High fructose corn syrup
17:30 Jaime Oliver sugar talk
19:13 We eat fries too
19:40 Technology
20:30 Bluelight & your skin
23:00 Collagen

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Dr. Nicole:

The is the Integrative Entrepreneur Podcast, where it’s not what you do, but how you do it. This is a podcast for entrepreneurs brought to you by entrepreneurs. We have been building a multi-million dollar healthcare business for over 10 years and we have weaved together some of the best information for the people that are doing the best work in the business. This includes Dr. Dimartini, who is a master in human behavior to Verne Harnish who has created the methodologies of scaling up that has scaled many, many of the best businesses that we all know of. We want you to not only have a business that you love, but also a life that you love.

Grace Farren:

So maybe you’re not at Starbucks or at Dunkin’ and you’re trying to be even more proactive and you’re making the coffee at home. So then you’re using your coffee maker, maybe it’s a drip, maybe it’s a Keurig with the pods. Either way, coffee makers are just a breeding ground for mold and your Keurig is plastic.

Dr. Nicole:

Yeah, exactly. And you’re getting BPA.

Grace Farren:

Yeah, the majority of coffee makers are plastic just because it’s coming into a drip, just because it’s dripping into a glass pot doesn’t mean that the inner workings are magically stainless steel or glass.

Dr. Nicole:

One of the saddest things that I found out literally a year ago is that majority of your cups, your mugs, have lead in them. Mainly because I went to Marshall’s and I picked up a mug that I liked and there was a sticker on it that said lead free. I was like, what?

Grace Farren:

Like now I have to look for this?

Dr. Nicole:

Yeah and then I started looking into lead and plate and mug making and it’s super common.

Grace Farren:

Okay. So then let’s add people who make pottery to our list of contaminated professions for that reason?

Dr. Nicole:

Glassblowing.

Grace Farren:

Yeah, exactly. So, okay. So then you’re making coffee to pour into your lead mug and either your coffee maker is moldy, your coffee beans are moldy or it’s all moldy. And what I mean by that is that coffee is one of the highest food products contaminated with mycotoxins. Mycotoxins are microscopic molds. So on top of that, maybe you’re having a Colombian coffee, which in our practice we see most commonly as a sensitivity because of the way the beans are burned. And then you’re buying ground coffee.

Dr. Nicole:

They’re not supposed to be burned. It’s supposed to be roasted. [crosstalk 00:02:43]

Grace Farren:

It also happens. And then you’re buying coffee grounds because who wants to go through the trouble of grinding the beans every morning. So you’re buying ground coffee. And how long do you think it’s been sitting on the shelf for? So how long do you think it was in a truck for? Where the hell did it come from? So all of that moisture, moisture, moisture grabbing type of environment within the bag that your grounds are housed in creates again, a breeding ground for mold then you’re putting it in your moldy coffee maker and drinking it out of your lead mug so.

Dr. Nicole:

This is so sad. This all podcast.

Grace Farren:

Yeah, I know. I know, but there are organic coffee companies that lab test independently for mold and mycotoxins. So there is a saving grace here because when Dr. Nicole first told me this, I think I did cry. And I you’ll realize when you make that swap to mycotoxin free coffee that you no longer need five to six cups a day like I did. Yeah. And you’re like, after one cup, you actually feel a benefit. So you’re not just drinking it so you don’t get a headache. You’re not just drinking it so you don’t go into withdrawal, but you’re actually drinking it and feeling the antioxidant effect that it’s actually supposed to have.

Dr. Nicole:

Exactly. Coffee does actually have a lot of benefits to it when you’re getting it in its purest form. But what you were just mentioning with the storage process of the coffee, I want you to understand that there are foods that have a higher probability of mold or fungal overgrowth and that is because of the storage process. So this actually applies to rice. This applies to oats. This applies to coffee beans.

Grace Farren:

Corn.

Dr. Nicole:

So corn. It’s interesting because Dr. Nick, my husband is from Iowa. And when we were out in Iowa, I was saying, I was like, oh, that corn field, like the corn is moldy. And he’s like, yeah, that’s field corn. I was like, what does that mean?

Grace Farren:

That’s what they feed the animals?

Dr. Nicole:

Yeah. So that’s the animal feed. Yeah. And so these animals are eating mold-laden in corn, which they’re not supposed to eat corn in the first place. So the corn is inflammatory, let alone it having mycotoxins. And this kind of next category that I want to get into is really important because something I was just saying to Grace as we were getting started with the podcast is that there are a lot of individuals that would, in a consultation with us or an intake with us, they would say, no, I really try to avoid over the counter medications. I really try to avoid Tylenols. And I’m not a big medication person. And yes, I take it if I need to, but, I obviously don’t take things on a regular basis. But the harsh reality of this is that we are all medicated and we are medicated unknowingly.

Dr. Nicole:

And that is because our factory farming and our industrial farming is medicating the animals so we are getting doses of growth hormone, we are getting doses of antibiotics and we are also getting exposed to mycotoxins because of the nature of what’s being fed to the animals. So we’re not always, what is the phrase? It’s not we are what we eat, we actually are what our food is-

Grace Farren:

Is eating. Exactly. And then you can even add a whole another layer to that going off of factory farming because of the way animals are slaughtered and the cortisol, the levels of cortisol that is pumping through them knowing that’s about to happen. So factory farming is not my realm of expertise in any way, but on top of all of that, then there comes… It comes down to the actual effect it has and the memory that the tissue holds.

Dr. Nicole:

It’s so funny you say that because there was this place that we used to go to back in the day they had buy one get one free burgers on Wednesdays. So you know that the meat was bad quality to be able to give a burger away. I used to have nightmares every time we would go there. And I don’t remember what the nightmares were, but I just, I remember after the third time it happened, I’m like this is very odd trend.

Grace Farren:

That’s very significant.

Dr. Nicole:

So it’s interesting what you said, because this isn’t psychosomatic or, oh, the energy of the animal, maybe, but this is actually physiological. You have this flood of adrenaline and cortisol. That is something that is actually affecting the constituents of the meat. So when we’re talking about the milk that you put in your coffee or the milk that goes in your latte, in your cereal, the milk that you use to make your oatmeal, or maybe you did some type of you’re on the healthy side, you’re like, I’m going to have some eggs and Turkey sausage or Turkey bacon. If you again, are not buying quality, these are things that are completely off of the radar. I had a girl that I was talking to, and this was actually, we were at a networking group. So this is prior to even starting the business. But she was saying, she’s like, what tips can you give me? I just can’t lose weight. I literally feel so inflamed. I can’t lose weight. All my weight is in my abdomen. And she’s like I eat so healthy.

Dr. Nicole:

She’s like don’t get me wrong, I have drinks on the weekend but I eat so healthy. I was like, well, tell me a little bit more about what you’re eating. And she’s like, well, I have a grilled chicken salad for lunch every day, I have some eggs in the morning, but as I dug into it, she was actually stopping at a gas station and getting a hard-boiled egg. So who knows the quality of that. And then the, again, the hormones and everything else that was given to that chicken. And then she was getting her grilled chicken salad from a pub. She was just around the corner from her office. So I was like, okay, I know that consciously you are making an effort, but you need to understand is that you’re getting a pretty cheap salad from a pub, which means they’re using cheap ingredients.

Dr. Nicole:

So you’re getting an iceberg lettuce that has zero nutrients, number one, zero fiber. Secondary to that, it’s going to be completely covered in pesticides. Then you’re getting a dressing, I worked in restaurants so I know all of this very well, but the dressings are not homemade. They come in a big ass container and most of them are laid in with MSG, even your balsamic vinaigrette. So there’s that chemical on top of it and then the chicken more than likely is being fed growth hormone and antibiotics and a variety of other issues with it. And that animal was fed a variety of corn. So you’re eating quote unquote healthy but in reality, all of these ingredients separate and together are inflammatory.

Grace Farren:

Yeap. And granted, she was getting a hard boiled egg from a gas station but if she were to have gotten eggs maybe from that pub, there’s a high likelihood that they came out of a box, meaning that they were powdered. And when I was working in a food service kitchen at Acute Rehab Center, meaning that my office was in that kitchen. I wasn’t working in the kitchen, but I had to walk through it all the time. I didn’t know at that point in my life that eggs could be powdered.

Dr. Nicole:

Ugh.

Grace Farren:

And that’s what’s being-

Dr. Nicole:

You guys should see my face right now.

Grace Farren:

I know. You can think they can hear it.

Dr. Nicole:

I love food so much and I just get so bad when people do stuff like that.

Grace Farren:

It’s just so sad. I know. I know.

Dr. Nicole:

Okay. So as we get into… I know that we’re in the era right now, a lot of people are working virtual, they’re working from home, but in reality is when we’re talking about our home and then we’re talking about an office building, or we’re talking about these large buildings that house our grocery stores and our shopping is we’re talking about offgassing from carpets to fluorescent lights to toxic people.

Grace Farren:

Yeah, absolutely. And just understanding too is that it’s not always about what’s in the house, but what’s outside of the house. Something that I had to become very conscious of is that one of our dogs got sick and we gave him filtered water and we make his food for him and we try to get all of his food from a farm. Yeah, we’re those people. But the amount of pesticides. I was living in a area where it was keeping up with the Joneses when it came to your lawn and every spring, I would see the trucks roll up and they would do the spray for mosquitoes and all of that. And I realized that my dog was getting exposed to massive amounts of pesticides and insecticides. And we actually ran testing on him and despite his filtered water consumption, he was toxic.

Dr. Nicole:

Yeah. My dog is a pesticide addict. I take her on walks and she walks with her tongue out ready just to lurp up whatever piece of grass or leaves she can. And she doesn’t eat it, she just sucks on it. And you see these animals that they looking fine. They don’t look fat, they look inflamed, they look like it’s tight. It’s like tight ones, same as a person. And there’s so many animals now with these growths, these [crosstalk 00:12:05] and they turn, it goes from lipomas to skin tags and then it becomes cancerous. And you hear that all the time is that there’s such an epidemic of cancer in animals and we can’t overlook the amount of chemicals in the outside environment.

Dr. Nicole:

And again, it’s maybe not necessarily don’t let your dog outside, but there are binders, there’s charcoal there’s clay that you can put a little sprinkle in their food that will help them to bind some of these toxins and eradicate them out through the urine and the stool. Obviously that same applies to humans. One of the other things is we could go down the most insane rabbit hole with food is high fructose corn syrup. It’s in fucking everything.

Grace Farren:

Yeah. It’s in everything. And a lot of times it’s actually the first or second ingredient.

Dr. Nicole:

It’s getting worse I think.

Grace Farren:

It’s getting worse and what kills me and I prefaced this whole podcast with my background, but when you’re looking at an organ, maybe not organ. Okay. But a tube feed formula or a shake for someone who isn’t otherwise intaking as many nutrients, quote unquote nutrients or calories essentially that they need in a day. Those-

Dr. Nicole:

That’s the stuff they recommend for kids. Is it Carnation? Carnation has something on that?

Grace Farren:

Carnation has one.. I’m blanking on the other one, but they’re owned by Nestle. When I was in my internship, that’s when Nestle bought these bigger companies and the ingredients got even worse at that time. So there’s people that are drinking three or four of these a day or they’re being fed intravenously or through a gastric tube. And it is wheat, whey-

Dr. Nicole:

Soy.

Grace Farren:

… soy and high-fructose corn syrup.

Dr. Nicole:

And unfortunately that is in baby formula as well. That set of ingredients and it’s also in the prescription dog food.

Grace Farren:

Dog food. So bad.

Dr. Nicole:

So bad. The first three ingredients of that, gosh, what is it called? It was a prescription dog food. It’s like $80 a bag or your vet will prescribe it. It was soy, corn and also high-fructose corn syrup, but I’m pretty sure, but regardless when it’s coming to the high fructose corn syrup, one of the things that I was joking about is when I was in Iowa with my in-laws is I saw miracle whip in the fridge. And I’ve never really eaten miracle weapon. I’m like, what is in this? And the first ingredient was soy oil, soybean oil. And the second ingredient was high fructose corn syrup. And it’s just fascinating how many of our condiments have tons and tons of high-fructose corn syrup in it.

Dr. Nicole:

And unfortunately it’s a lot of our snacks that are being geared towards children. So things that you have to really consider when it comes to snacks and pre-packaged foods is what type of sweetener is in it. Is it high fructose corn syrup? And also is it high in sugar? Because most of these items that we’re consuming, if you were to tally up the amount of sugar that you have eaten at the end of the day, you will be completely horrified to realize how much sugar is in the things that you’re eating from the start of the day to the end of the day.

Dr. Nicole:

And very funny is I never classified myself as someone who was a sugar person, but when I actually tallied up how much sugar I was exposed to just through having a glass of wine and a latte in the beginning of the day, that was exposing me to an astronomical amount of sugar, just those two things. And I wasn’t necessarily eating rice and bread and I wasn’t having ice cream after dinner. I wasn’t doing those things. So in my mind, I wasn’t a sugar person, but in reality, it was actually coming into my body via beverages. So these are all things to consider and also considering what are the oils that are making up some of these products, especially condiments. Cotton seed oil, soy oil, canola oil, the grape seed oil. These are oils that very easily when heated become hydrogenated. If they become hydrogenated, they become toxic to your body and your body produces what’s called free radicals. And this is overall causing an immune response and a toxic response to your cells.

Dr. Nicole:

So also understanding that majority of your soda, especially here in the US is going to have high fructose corn syrup. It’s not sugar anymore. The only sugar is actually in your soda that is in a glass bottle. I think they call it Mexican Coca-Cola, but the Mexican Coca-Cola is in a glass bottle and that actually has real sugar in it. It still has, what? 40 grams of sugar?

Grace Farren:

Absolutely. It’s something, I think it’s something like six or seven teaspoons.

Dr. Nicole:

Yeah. Well, Jamie Oliver did a really cool thing when he did his TED Talk and he actually got on stage and he dumped a wheelbarrow, but the wheelbarrow, it was overflowing with sugar cubes and he dumped it onto the stage. And he said, this is how much sugar your child is getting exposed to in a year just from milk. Just from milk, nothing else. And people were like ooh. It was like sheer terror.

Dr. Nicole:

So as we kind of navigate into the evening hours, we’re eating dinner sometimes we’re de-stressing with the wine, we’re maybe having a cocktail or maybe having a beer. If we are had a really rough day, we might tailor or tag that along with some type of comfort food, maybe we’re having some Buffalo wings with friends or we’re having Macaroni and cheese, things like spinach artichoke dip or corn fries. And just understanding once you’re getting into that realm is now, again, we’re getting high doses of these hydrogenated oils. We’re getting genetically modified breading, which is, or wheat in the breading. We’re getting our growth hormone and antibiotic infested proteins. And it’s just a big old shit show.

Grace Farren:

Yeah. And I mean, even just going off like Dr. Nicole and I love French fries, we’re not sitting here talking about how all of this and then acting like we don’t eat it, but what helps-

Dr. Nicole:

In moderation.

Grace Farren:

In absolute moderation. Because what I was going to say is that when I want that something or when I’m inclined to do that, I literally just think about the vert of boiling oil that French fries have been soaked in for the entire day that doesn’t get changed. Right?

Dr. Nicole:

Yep. I worked in a restaurant so you are correct my friend. So last but not least that I want to mention it because we have gone over time is this is not just about food. This is not just about products that you put on your skin. It’s not about what you inhale, but it’s also your environment. And what I mean by that is technology. So as we get into the evening hours, we’ve applied a million things to our skin, we’ve inhaled a bunch and we’ve ingested a bunch of toxins. And then we top it off with a couple of hours of TV, iPad, Kindle, laptop, video game, whatever it is and the amount of radiation that we’re all exposed to due to our Bluetooth technologies and our AirPods and our Apple watches is also just the icing on the cake. So this is not just one thing and I think that that’s what we need to realize. And instead of walking away from this podcast being overwhelmed, you should be like, wow, I have so much room for opportunity just to even change one or two things that will decrease the stress on my body.

Grace Farren:

Right. And I’m so glad you said that about the radiation from the tablets, but also something that has kind of shaken up the wellness industry is blue light in the past few years and how it’s damaging our eyes. It’s damaging our eyes. Okay.

Dr. Nicole:

It’s rewiring our brain.

Grace Farren:

It’s rewiring our brain, but you’re also, your skin is incredibly affected by Blu-ray. So-

Dr. Nicole:

Blue light.

Grace Farren:

Blue light sorry.

Dr. Nicole:

Blu-ray it’s like back in the day DVD.

Grace Farren:

That was just like a subconscious look there. So all of my 20 somethings who are noticing, especially in the pandemic that now they have wrinkles under their eyes or wrinkles in their forehead or spots on their skin that they didn’t have prior and they’re running literally running out and getting Botox, it could also just be because for the last year and a half, the majority of us have been 100% virtual. So maybe your industry wasn’t on the computer before or whatever the case may be that you’re now exposed to more blue light, it is 100% effecting your skin. So there are non-toxic companies that have done studies on that. So that’s how I learned about it. And that they’re putting blue light blocking minerals in their sunscreen and makeup.

Dr. Nicole:

Interesting. Well, even what you said is the… We obviously have established today that glyphosate, the pesticide, is unbelievably common in a lot of the things that we’re eating. And one of the things that we didn’t mention is that it actually compromises the amino acid called glycine, which is prevalent in your collagen. So between the blue light, damaging the skin and the toxicity of the glyphosate, we have many individuals that feel like they’re rapidly aging. And they’re like my skin looks terrible and we live in the era that Botox and filler and all of that is readily available, but really we’re not addressing the root of the issue. We’re just fixing something on the surface. So it’s just… You see individuals that clean up their lives, they clean up their diet and you’re like, wow, you look so young. And it’s really because they’ve removed these [crosstalk 00:22:40] chemicals that are damaging their collagen and their cellular health.

Grace Farren:

Do you want to talk about college and real quick? What you told me about store-bought collagen.

Dr. Nicole:

Oh God, do we really-

Grace Farren:

Just really quick because I don’t want people to… Because we set a buzzword and I don’t want everyone to run out and get-

Dr. Nicole:

You’re right.

Grace Farren:

… collagen. So we’ll, you can speak to it more but I have been plant-based for 10 years. So I take collagen and builders. I take the precursor to collagen which is basically just herbs and roots and stuff. But what you told me about the source of collagen, the animal source of collagen, I believe you said it was from the hide.

Dr. Nicole:

Yeah. So we were actually at an event a while back and there was an individual that he has actually studied the effects of glyphosate in the body. And one of the specific things that he was talking about collagen and then he said so many of you might be thinking, oh, I’m going to go start taking collagen or drinking bone broth or using powdered based collagen. And he’s like but what you have to understand is about when it comes to the powder-based collagen, I have researched the best brands on the market and they are not using the bone or the collagen and of the animal. What they’re using is the hide of the animal and the hide of the cow in particular.

Dr. Nicole:

And so you can grass fed or grass feed this animal, which obviously affects the internal environment but the hide being the skin is being covered in pesticides, it’s being covered in heartworm medication. It’s being covered in insecticides, bug repellent, et cetera. And that is what is getting processed in order to produce your collagens that are on the market. And at that moment I was completely horrified. And he was a farmer too. He’s like, listen, I have a farm with animals and I have a farm that I do things differently now, but I grew up on a farm and I know what the reality is of what goes on that hide throughout the duration of that cow’s life. So, yeah.

Dr. Nicole:

So when it comes to what to take away from this entire podcast is understanding one, we’re exposed to a lot of crap. And we say this with love and to empower you because the last thing that we want is people walking around having no idea how they can empower themselves and how they can modify their lives for the better. Obviously when we go through a life of exposure of toxins is that our detox pathways get overloaded. And the easiest example that I give to people is that it’s like you bought the best of the best vacuum, but you keep using it and you don’t dump the filter. And it’s that your filter, there’s nothing wrong with your vacuum, but your filter is at max capacity. So if your liver is at max capacity and the kidneys are at max capacity and your lymph nodes are at max capacity, which are your major detox avenues, then you’re not getting rid of the bad stuff anymore.

Dr. Nicole:

And you might say, wow, I’m so sensitive to caffeine or, oh gosh, I’m hung over for four days if I drink a glass of wine. Or like, oh my gosh, I’m so sensitive to medications all of a sudden. And that is all showing you that you your detox pathways of your liver are taxed or completely taxed out. So it’s a matter of reverse engineering and getting those organs to function more optimally by helping you to eliminate what is blocking them. Dump the filter, essentially.

Grace Farren:

Absolutely.

Dr. Nicole:

And that takes effort and it takes strategy. So you can go and buy your store-bought detox, but you might make yourself sick. You can go get a lymphatic massage, but you might make yourself sick. I really advocate for people to get more information about their body and their blueprint so that you could do it right and you don’t, first of all, create more problems. Second of all, you don’t waste time and money.

Grace Farren:

Yeah, definitely.

Dr. Nicole:

I had a cabinet of solid 35, $40,000 of supplements from trial and error before we did what we do now. And what we do now is we don’t guess, we test. Everything is tested. What detox you need is tested. What lymphatic therapies you need is tested. What supplements you need is tested. And that is the beauty in getting personalized and being specific is that you’re able to see positive changes in a shorter amount of time.

Grace Farren:

Right. And without the exaggerated detox results or Herc’s reactions that you would otherwise be encountering.

Dr. Nicole:

Well, yeah. Anybody who’s ever worked with me knows that I hate that term Herc’s and I’m just like, that just means you’re not doing it right. And I’m not saying you’re not doing it right because you’re doing something wrong at home. I mean, whoever gave you this protocol is not… The protocol is not complete. So you can’t just detox your liver and ignore your kidneys and your lymphatic system and vice versa.

Grace Farren:

Expect things to go well. Yeah.

Dr. Nicole:

Exactly. So you have to make sure that these systems are working together. So if you are looking for more information to learn a little bit more about our testing and how we are able to help individuals navigate getting this crap out of their body, while obviously educating them on how they can be more proactive in their day to day, definitely head to our website, hop on a strategy call with our team. We’re here to really answer all of your questions and see how we can help. But we hope that this was empowering.

Grace Farren:

Yes, that’s the takeaway.

Dr. Nicole:

And not overwhelming, but also gave you a little bit of a harsh reality.

Grace Farren:

Yeah. To drink different coffee.

Dr. Nicole:

And Grace obviously is the queen of giving you amazing tasty food alternatives, because that’s the thing is we love food. We love, we love [crosstalk 00:28:52] social. We love a good glass of wine. We love all those things. We’ve just learned the better versions of them.

Grace Farren:

Right. I’m the queen of swaps and I’m here for you.

Dr. Nicole:

All right, guys, thank you for being with us and we will see you next time.

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