Ep #30 Daily Dose of TOXINS: Part 1

In this episode of the Integrative Entrepreneur, Dr. Nicole & Grace walk through a typical day for most people… laced with toxins. They’re diving into part 1 of this episode by exposing unknown irritants and underscoring the mantra “you don’t know what you don’t know.” Listen through the end to hear about the potential toxins you’re being exposed to on the daily… and solutions to eliminating them.

“This is not about ingestion. When we talk about the accumulation of toxins, we’re talking about various avenues of absorption.” - Dr. Nicole

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Noteworthy Time Stamps:

2:47 Where to start… how to eat & your day-to-day
4:00 Everyone’s a liar
6:14 Familial aspect
9:34 Overlooked toxin from your environment
13:15 What they’re doing to conventional celery
17:30 Morning through midday assessment

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Dr. Nicole:

This is the Integrative Entrepreneur Podcast where it’s not what you do but how you do it. This is a podcast for entrepreneurs brought to you by entrepreneurs. We have been building a multi million dollar health care business for over 10 years, and we have weaved together some of the best information for the people that are doing the best work in the business. This includes Dr. Demartini, who is a master in human behavior to Verne Harnish, who has created the methodologies of Scaling Up that has scaled many, many of the best businesses that we all know of. We want you to not only have a business that you love, but also a life that you love.

Dr. Nicole:

Hello, everyone. So welcome back to another episode, I am here with Grace, our lovely functional medicine practitioner. I should really say integrative medicine practitioner, because I keep kicking myself by saying that because we’re both really embracing this integrative approach with our patients and not just focusing on diet and supplements.

Grace:

Right.

Dr. Nicole:

So tell them about yourself.

Grace:

Happy to be here. It’s interesting because this will definitely come up today, but I was trained traditionally as a clinical nutritionist, and everything I learned was dictated by the American Dietetic Association. And so it’s interesting in a way that that built a foundation, of course, and I always say that, but in integrating, in practicing functional medicine and up-leveling that to an aspect of care, where we can integrate therapies and supplementation along with lifestyle and diet has made the biggest change in my scope of practice.

Dr. Nicole:

And your life.

Grace:

And my life. Absolutely.

Dr. Nicole:

That’s for sure. So today, we’re going to get real real, because… Well, I’ll say, I just recently had the pleasure to go visit my in-laws who I love dearly, but they are from the Midwest, and their lifestyle is quite different than ours. Well, I should really say majority of the population, their life is a lot different. And the only reason is because I’ve been in this industry, and I’ve seen chronic illness, I’ve seen mystery illness, and we’ve worked with people that haven’t been getting answers. And when that happens, and you dig deeper and you ask better questions, it starts to uncover a lot of information that is very shocking and honestly disturbing.

Grace:

Right. And I think a good way to start peeling back those layers is to ask first and foremost, what you eat, and how you go about your day. When I started with Integrative Wellness Group when I was doing nutrition consults, I cultivated a style of almost like an interview where I say the same thing every single time, no matter how many times they’ve worked with me. And I say, “Take me through a normal day for you. So everything you’re eating and drinking from the time you wake up to the time you go to sleep.”

Grace:

And it’s so funny because again, no matter how many times that we’ve had consults together, the patient will still skip things, and I’ll know it and I’ll have to interrupt. So if I’m interrupting 10, 12, 15, 20 times, it’s because I’m like, “What did you drink with that? Did you have a snack? Did you have a piece of gum? Did you do this?” And they’re like, “Oh, oh, oh.” I’m like, “Yeah, I know.” So you can get very caught up in glazing over parts of your day that are so into, I’ll use the word-

Dr. Nicole:

Habitual.

Grace:

Integrated and habitual and almost ritualistic to the point where they’re just part of you, and you don’t think about them anymore.

Dr. Nicole:

Well, what was the first thing that I taught you when you started working with us?

Grace:

Don’t put me on the spot. There’s too many things.

Dr. Nicole:

Okay, I’ll-

Grace:

Everyone’s a liar.

Dr. Nicole:

Yeah, everyone’s a liar, yes. And I say that with love to our audience because first of all, I did not know what I didn’t know.

Grace:

Right.

Dr. Nicole:

And when I got into this world, and I did my own testing, I realized how much of my symptoms were my normal, but I also realized how many things that I was doing on a day to day basis that were contributing to my symptoms, but I had no idea because they were the norm, not just for myself, but they were the norm based off of most people’s lives. And we are living in a world where we’re being marketed a variety of different types of products and services that are contributing to the toxicity that we have in our bodies.

Dr. Nicole:

And we’re actually going to go through a day by day, hour by hour, to help give you a harsh reality of how much you are doing on a day to day basis that is actually exposing you to different toxins. And we’re not doing this to scare you, but it’s more so knowledge is power, and you don’t know what you don’t know. And you may have chronic fatigue, you may have sleep issues and you may have gut issues, you may have chronic headaches.

Dr. Nicole:

And you’re seeking out the specialist, you’re seeking out a variety of different types of therapies, maybe medications, maybe you’ve even had Botox in your forehead because your migraines are so bad and nothing is helping. And you feel completely powerless, and you’re to a point that you don’t know what the heck is causing it, and you don’t know what to do.

Dr. Nicole:

So when I had the luxury of being with my family, it brings me back to reality of how much people do on a day to day that they don’t have any idea might be contributing to their overall status of their health. And this was where I was texting Grace, I’m like, “Dude, we’re doing a podcast about how many toxins people are exposed to on a day to day basis.” And she’s like, “Let’s do it.”

Grace:

Yeah. And I think that they’re going off of that experience you had, I think there’s an aspect to this that is really familial. And we hear this all the time in practice, “Oh, my mom has heartburn. Oh, my dad had gall stones. Oh, depression runs in my family.” And it’s like, “Okay, but how about the hair dye your mom started you on when you were 15, the birth control that you went on when you were a teenager and the nails you’ve been getting since you were young?”

Dr. Nicole:

And the food you all eat.

Grace:

“The food you all eat together, the hair products, the makeup?”

Dr. Nicole:

The detergent?

Grace:

Yeah, I’m not blaming anyone’s parents, of course, it’s just thinking about things that we have been taught to believe are inherited, or passed down when it’s really just because you all lived in the same environment together and were raised a certain way.

Dr. Nicole:

And practiced the same things.

Grace:

Exactly.

Dr. Nicole:

So as we get into this topic, a couple of things that I want to preface with is understanding that this is not about ingestion. When we talk about the accumulation of toxins, we’re talking about various avenues of absorption. And if you look at the back of your toothpaste, it says, “If you swallow in large quantities, please call Poison Control Center.” But when we really think about it, if you dig into biology and physiology, you understand that there are a variety of glands in your mouth that are designed to absorb; that’s actually where you absorb a portion of your nutrients. And then they’re also designed to excrete out enzymes to help you break down your food adequately.

Grace:

It’s early.

Dr. Nicole:

It’s early. So with that being said is, small amounts of toothpaste on a day to day basis anywhere between two to three times a day, it’s almost like you’re micro dosing yourself with the specific chemicals that are in it. And in addition is we have our skin, and we are all putting things on our skin, and especially coming out of the pandemic, we have all been recommended to wash our hands repeatedly, to use hand sanitizers.

Dr. Nicole:

There is a lot of talk about how harmful the sun is, now that we’re in the summer months. And we are being recommended to use SPF in our makeup, we’re being recommended to use sunblock if we’re outside, and no one is necessarily talking about the quality and talking about not all sunblock is created equal, not all makeup is created equal.

Dr. Nicole:

And one of the other aspects is there’s going to be some things that you hear from us today that are repetitive, and it’s because one of the things that, and Grace you can speak to this too, is I personally feel like a lot of patients that come to us they’ve usually been other places. And they’ve had some foundational knowledge of like, “Hey, you have some heavy metals in your system and maybe it came from the silver fillings that were put in your teeth as a kid.” And people have some general knowledge of maybe this has contributed to my symptoms.

Dr. Nicole:

But I feel that one of the things that’s highly, highly overlooked in the conventional medicine space, the functional medicine space is pesticides. Unfortunately, in this day and age, pesticides are on almost everything and not to completely depress all of you, but even organic food. Don’t get me wrong, organic is better because it has significantly less amounts of pesticides, but if you’re in the conventional realm of conventional produce, you are getting an absurd amount of glyphosate, which is also known as the lovely weed killer that we use in our yards called Roundup.

Grace:

And we were just doing some research prepping for this and Roundup cannot be washed or scrubbed off. So something to be said about that is that if you’re… We’ve all heard Dirty Dozen, Clean 15, right?

Dr. Nicole:

I’m so glad you said that.

Grace:

So there are certain fruits and vegetables and produce products that we are told it’s okay to eat these conventional typically, it’s because they grow on a tree versus growing from within the earth. So that’s an orange with skin or an apple with skin versus a carrot, versus lettuce, things like that, that you have to pull out of the dirt. And that’s just so asinine because there is absolutely no reason for you to be consuming anything that is covered in pesticides, whether it’s from within the earth or growing on a tray.

Grace:

I have a perfect example because I was eating dinner, and the person I was with was like, “Oh I hate peppers, I hate peppers.” I’m like, “Why?” And they said, “Because I don’t like the way they squeak on your teeth.” I told you this because I was so mind-blown.

Dr. Nicole:

No, I don’t think you did.

Grace:

Oh I did not?

Dr. Nicole:

But I hate how they squeak too, but I know why they squeak.

Grace:

Exactly. I’m like “It’s wax. It literally forms a waxy substance and then you’re ingesting that.” So if you’re washing a piece… Let’s go with the pepper. If you’re washing the pepper and you’re watching the water bead off of it as you’re washing it, that’s because it’s impenetrable at that point.

Dr. Nicole:

100%.

Grace:

So it’s just interesting, because it’s hard to bring that to the forefront of your mind every time you’re shopping, every time you’re eating, every time you’re cooking. And I know organic produce has a higher price tag and that connotation has also been outlined by Dirty Dozen versus Clean 15. Here’s what you can save on by shopping conventional.

Dr. Nicole:

But the way that I look at this too though is, when you’re in the grocery store and you look at the organic celery versus the regular celery, they look pretty similar and in your mind you could easily say, “Well, I can’t see the chemicals, how different really is it?” But what’s interesting is we’re in the summer right now here in New Jersey, and there’s a lot of farmers’ markets, and that is definitely a fantastic way to go and support your local farm, first of all. And second of all, you will have a completely different perspective about your produce because I specifically bought celery from a local farm, it was organic and I couldn’t believe how dark in color it was.

Dr. Nicole:

And then when I actually cooked with it, I could not believe the strength of the flavor, it was so potent. And I commented on it the next week when I went back to grab my produce and they’re like, “Yeah, so when you’re getting your organic celery, very often between the shipping and the amount of time before it gets on the shelf at a grocery store, to keep it hydrated, they actually inject it with fluid. So that’s why the celery is so pale-“

Grace:

And so watery.

Dr. Nicole:

So watery, and it has a watered down flavor. And it’s just mind blowing, these little things because you see the difference, you taste the difference, and a lot of people don’t know those differences. They haven’t experienced the taste of a farm-raised, pasture-raised, quality chicken versus your conventional chicken in the store. And when you taste it, that’s the biggest eye opener and you’re like, “Whoa, this is good.”

Grace:

This is why I never liked celery.

Dr. Nicole:

Oh, 100%

Grace:

It was something like that.

Dr. Nicole:

And what you’re saying too, is I know there’s a lot of individuals that are like, “Well, my bananas are conventional, but I take the skin off, and I’m good to go.” But the contamination of those pesticides is in the soil. So if that is growing in contaminated soil, it is contaminated from the inside out and the outside in. So understanding that it’s not just about what’s on it, but it’s also the soil that it’s grown in.

Dr. Nicole:

So the last thing that I want to mention before we dive into the hour by hour is in relation to… We’re talking about pesticides and one of the things that’s happening as we ingest these different foods that are high in pesticides is it’s compromising our microbiome, it’s compromising the good versus bad bacteria in our gastrointestinal system. And many of you have heard is, there’s a lot happening in the gut and the gut dictates your immune system, the gut dictates your mood. You can’t be healthy without a healthy gut, and there is definitely relevance to that.

Dr. Nicole:

I think that a lot of doctors really need to look beyond the gut because there’s various things or many variables to look at, but when we’re talking about microbiome, we’re also talking about your skin, your mouth, your vagina. We’re talking about needing that beautiful balance of good and bad bacteria in all of those areas. And very often, we’re overlooking that and we are spraying our skin with different things, we’re using hand sanitizers, we are using soaps that are antiseptic, and we’re not realizing that the less bacteria on the skin, it’s not just about bad bacteria, but the less good bacteria on the skin, the less good bacteria in the gut, the more opportunity there is for the bad to infiltrate.

Dr. Nicole:

So it’s almost keeping this simple idea of the good bacteria crowds out the bad bacteria. So we really have to find that balance of what can we be doing that allows us to not just be like kill, kill, kill, kill, kill, but to maintain a healthy amount of bacteria in the system?

Grace:

Yeah. And we’re not talking about going out and getting a probiotic, because that’s a whole another podcast. But the same way you can have an overgrowth of bad bacteria, you can have an overgrowth of good bacteria. If that balances off, that can present in the oral cavity, in the gut, in the esophagus, in the vagina. And it’s basically goes to show you that the same way you have a microbiome in your gut, you have one in your mouth. And so-

Dr. Nicole:

And it’s all about diversity.

Grace:

Exactly.

Dr. Nicole:

What you’re saying is that if you’re stripping away so much of your native bacteria through antibiotics and antiseptics, and then you are proactive to go get your probiotic that maybe is lactobacillus-based. Now, you have a major lack in diversity, which is not going to benefit you.

Grace:

Right, exactly.

Dr. Nicole:

All right, let’s do it.

Grace:

Okay, I’m ready.

Dr. Nicole:

So Grace is really going to shine when it comes to the food side of things because I know what the items are, but with her background, she obviously knows more of these intricacies when it comes to what these ingredients actually are and what they do. We really want to start with helping you to understand from the moment that you are getting up, so… Okay, we go to bed at night. Obviously, we know sleep is really important, but what we don’t always think about is the things that are in our home that are potentially toxic.

Dr. Nicole:

And then again, we often think, well, we’re not going to be affected by it, because we’re not ingesting it. So if you are sleeping in a bed, which most people are, or even, maybe you sleep on a couch, maybe you sleep on a futon, whatever it is. Flame retardants are one of the major things that is in all of our furniture, flame retardants are things to prevent them from going up in flames. So flame retardants are things that can off gas and can be inhaled. So obviously, this is not something that we’re inhaling in large, large abundance, but it’s just one thing that could be overlooked that could be affecting your sleep.

Grace:

Yep, there was one time where I was living somewhere, and I was tripping the bed, and I wasn’t the one making it typically, and there was an entire latex covering on the bed. That had memory foam in it and things like that, but it was fully latex. And I personally have a latex allergy, so I was like, “Oh, that’s so nice.”

Dr. Nicole:

And you weren’t having a throat closing reaction-

Grace:

Right.

Dr. Nicole:

But it could be I’m waking up with a headache every day, and I’m not refreshed in morning.

Grace:

Or I’m just waking up several times throughout the night, if that otherwise doesn’t happen to you, that could be why. But it’s just interesting how mattress companies will typically tell you, “Oh, let it off-gas for a few days.” There’s just a disclaimer that we’ve accepted. So it comes in and if your windows are closed or something like that, you will smell that toxic load. And yes it is off-gassing, but you’re still inhaling it and that doesn’t mean it’s gone. All of that didn’t evaporate, it’s just because you took it out of the plastic or the box so it’s still in your mattress.

Dr. Nicole:

So as we get into this, we’re probably scaring the shit out of all of you already and we’re not even close to done. So I want to say is that when we get to the end, we’re going to circle this back to really understand how to build more resilience in your body, and that you don’t have to live in fear of your environment. It’s really a matter of understanding why your body may be more susceptible to these things, but also to help you understand the elephant in the room that you maybe have not acknowledged.

Dr. Nicole:

So with that example that we just provided, if you are a person who is struggling massively with sleep, and you are never refreshed in the morning, and you wake up with chronic headaches, and you’ve been medicating or you’ve maybe tried to take supplements, or maybe you were like, “Oh, maybe it’s a dietary thing,” and nothing’s working. And then you realize that something you’re allergic to is in your mattress, or the sheets that you’re using are washed in a detergent that creates irritation for your system.

Dr. Nicole:

When we’re talking about the world of detergent, fabric softeners and dryer sheets, this is one of the most toxic arenas. And what’s crazy about it is that when I was growing up, my mom caught me when I was probably six years old, we’d go to the grocery store, and she would walk down the aisle, she loved her cleaning product. Oh my gosh, loved them, all the best stuff, the ammonia, she went for it.

Grace:

OH, yeah. Bleach.

Dr. Nicole:

Bleach, all of it. And I would hold my breath in that aisle because it would make my head hurt so bad. And she was like, “Why are you holding your breath?” I’m like, “Get me out of this aisle.” But the more that I’ve learned about it is, you’re washing your clothes, you’re washing your sheets in these items that have phthalates and parabens and benzenes and it’s absorbing directly through your skin-

Grace:

And dies.

Dr. Nicole:

And dies. And we have an epidemic of melanomas, basal cell carcinomas, squamous cell changes, and we are thinking that this is directly correlated to the sun, but what if it’s because of your sheets and your clothing and the dry cleaning chemicals?

Grace:

And not to mention liver spots. Liver spots don’t just pop out overnight, so if you have them on your face, if you have them on your hands, and your immediate thought is to go get your enzymes checked in, and maybe you’re drinking too much. Maybe you are, but if the liver’s too toxic and you have a lifetime of inhaling things like this, that’s a contributing factor.

Dr. Nicole:

And I definitely want people to understand the liver a bit better, but even speaking I don’t know if I told you this story, but the dry cleaner right up the street from the office, that’s where I bring my clothes sometimes. And yes people, I’m not an angel or a saint, I do dry clean sometimes-

Grace:

Same.

Dr. Nicole:

Mainly because I have a shopping addiction that my husband hates and I manage to like things that have to be dry cleaned.

Grace:

It’s retail therapy.

Dr. Nicole:

So I go to the place, they totally rip me off and tell me it’s organic, but I know-

Grace:

It’s not.

Dr. Nicole:

I know the reality of it. It’s better. So the dry cleaner, he actually moved so he unfortunately lost his business during the pandemic, and then he is still in the industry, but he is pretty much working for someone else who owns the facility. But when I was talking to him I was just like, “How are things?” He’s super nice guy. And he actually told me that he just underwent surgery, and one of the reasons wasn’t just about the pandemic, but he has almost a million dollars in medical bills.

Dr. Nicole:

And he lost his business because of it, because he pretty much went bankrupt. And I was like, “Oh, I’m so sorry.” And of course, I didn’t want to pry, but he had liver cancer, and his daughter donated half of her liver in a transplant but he is going to be taking certain drugs so that his body doesn’t reject the surgery. And he has a variety of interventions that cost him three to $4,000 per month, and he’s not well, like not thriving. He’s not paying three to $4,000 and feels great.

Grace:

Be well and feel great.

Dr. Nicole:

But as he was talking about this, I just couldn’t help but think about the fact that he’s been in the dry cleaning industry for 30 years and that he’s being told, “Oh, well, this is maybe hereditary or this is because you drink.” And it has nothing to do with the fact that you’ve been repeatedly exposed to chemicals via skin absorption and inhalation.

Grace:

They probably didn’t even ask what he does.

Dr. Nicole:

And he’s still in the industry. So it breaks my heart that this individual went through these great leaps in order to get a transplant surgery and is trying to just get well-

Grace:

And his daughter.

Dr. Nicole:

And chances are, he won’t get well because of the fact that he’s being repeatedly exposed to these chemicals. So these are things that we all need to think about. And for the individual that’s waking up in the morning and then going to their profession, I’m sure there was more than even what we’re listening off, but some of the professions that are exposing us to repeated toxins is stylists. Working in hair salons where you have aerosol sprays, and hair sprays and there’s formaldehyde in the-

Grace:

Everything.

Dr. Nicole:

Well, yeah. The dyes and what of those treatments which straightens your hair?

Grace:

Oh my God, keratin.

Dr. Nicole:

So keratin treatment-

Grace:

On the Brazilian blowout. When I got one, they gave you a little cone with a handle to put over your face because these chemicals are going to make your eyes water and your nose burn. So you had to sit there for hours holding that to your face while they were doing it.

Dr. Nicole:

Ugh, my gosh. ANd mechanics, painters, even I was working with a patient the other day and one of the things that came up in her testing was a tremendous amount of formaldehyde. And I was explaining to her how some foods unknowingly, they can break down into formaldehyde, and formaldehyde is something that, and ammonia actually, can be broken down by certain types of… Or certain types of fish, through consumption can be broken down and yield ammonia.

Dr. Nicole:

Actually, I’m going to stop you right there. She’s like, “I was a dental hygienist and I worked…” She’s like, “This was years ago, but I literally played with ammonia and I played with formaldehyde. It was used in various treatments”.

Grace:

Just day to day.

Dr. Nicole:

And she’s like, “I didn’t wear gloves and I didn’t wear a mask or anything like that.” And I was like, “Interesting. Okay.” So, there are going to be certain industries that are more obvious that they’re getting exposed, but there’s so much that we’re doing beyond waking up in our bed with potential flame retardants. But then we’re hopping in the shower and chlorine, ammonia. What’s the biggest thing we’ve been seeing lately?

Grace:

Chloroform toxicity. And so that combination of chlorine, ammonia and hot water will create chloroform. And-

Dr. Nicole:

Yes, people were talking about like in the movies-

Grace:

I was just about to say that.

Dr. Nicole:

When they put stuff on the rag and they put it over your face and you pass out?

Grace:

And it knocks you out.

Dr. Nicole:

Yeah. And it was like, “I’m so tired.”

Grace:

And that’s the other thing. It’s like, “Oh what’s wrong with my sleep? What’s wrong with my sleep?” And it’s like okay, we just told you two things. Is that your mattress, or is it your sheets? Is it your dry cleaning, or is it your morning shower?

Dr. Nicole:

Yeah. Or your evening shower.

Grace:

Right. And it’s like and my hair’s falling out, and my skin is dry, and then we’re seeing it in the tissue. So it’s just so interesting, we’re seeing it in nasal passageways, we’re seeing it in hair follicles, we’re seeing it in skin cells, and it’s definitely contributing to overall toxicity. But that’s just setting you up for the rest of your day, because we haven’t even gotten to 7AM yet in our day to day.

Dr. Nicole:

And then in the shower when you’re really going for more of those conventional brands, like the easy to access I can buy it at CVS [crosstalk 00:28:00], some type of pharmacy, I can buy it at my local grocery store. Is unfortunately, a lot of these more well-known products in the shampoo, conditioner, body wash family, they’re containing a variety of different chemicals. And just to scratch the surface, because people are most familiar with, they keep seeing these products that say no phthalates, and no parabens.

Dr. Nicole:

But between phthalates, parabens, as well as benzenes, these are three chemicals that are extremely toxic and extremely harmful to the body, even carcinogenic in high amounts that we are literally using every single day.

Grace:

Not to mention there is such a… Obviously we’re all aware that we’re in a self-care movement and there are definitely people and I’ll say from experience, specifically women, who are really embracing taking baths. And so then you’re multiplying the length of time you’d be in the shower times two or three, you’re soaking in that water. And then maybe you’re using these products on top of that and then soaking in the products.

Dr. Nicole:

Yeah, well, there was a website that I loved, and I still complain about it to this day, because it’s been a year-

Grace:

I know, you were so hurt.

Dr. Nicole:

I’m very upset about it. But there was a website called scorecard.org. You were able to plug in a zip code, and it would tell you the water contamination as well as the air pollution, but it would also tell you the companies that have contributed to the pollution. So just a great example that people can wrap their head around is here in New Jersey, there are things called Superfund sites. So Superfund sites are all over the world, specifically this website that I’m talking about showcased the ones in the United States, and most states are a lot larger than New Jersey.

Dr. Nicole:

California is huge, Texas is huge, so when you looked at Superfund sites state to state, most states had two, tree, four, I think that the most was eight. And a Superfund site is a site that has a government ordinance to be cleaned up due to massive pollution or even nuclear waste. In New Jersey, there are 126 Superfund sites in our little teeny state. So just thinking about that, and the amount of pharmaceutical companies and factories and different facilities, I go, what is that one called the fragrance?

Grace:

Oh, Locally?

Dr. Nicole:

Flavors, fragrance-

Grace:

Something. We can never remember.

Dr. Nicole:

It’s not very far from us, it’s in Monmouth County. But overall, it’s just understanding that these companies they’re contributing to the pollution in the area, in the soil, which then gets into the groundwater. This is then creating a massive issue in the water that we are showering in and bathing in. And when we talk about these water companies, how they’re using chlorine and ammonia, this is purely just to manage parasites and harmful bacteria. This is not helping to eradicate out toxicity from the water. If anything, it’s contributing.

Grace:

It’s adding more.

Dr. Nicole:

Exactly.

Grace:

All right. So some of the lesser known professions that we were listing… So we were listing stylists and dry cleaners and such, but also think about your school coaches who are on the field. And then I was thinking, what about NFL players who are working out on the field and you’re-

Dr. Nicole:

Turf and pesticides.

Grace:

What’s worse, grass or turf? So it’s things like that. Also, we were talking about ferry directors and how they’re just breathing in car exhaust all day. So the list is long-

Dr. Nicole:

Bus drivers that’s sitting in the Lincoln Tunnel, or the Holland Tunnel.

Grace:

For hours. So I know we said this already, but we’re not saying that, and we don’t say this to our patients either. We don’t need to change your profession, we don’t need to change your job, that’s unrealistic. We need to get out what is causing damage and allow for your body to heal in a way where it’s then able to filter and detoxify properly, so that you can walk down the detergent aisle and not get a headache.

Dr. Nicole:

But it’s also a matter of, there are little things that you can change-

Grace:

Of course.

Dr. Nicole:

Because once we get through this whole list, you can change your toothpaste, you can change your lotion.

Grace:

You can change your coffee.

Dr. Nicole:

Uh-oh we’re going there. Okay, so before we get to the coffee, so obviously you got out of bed, you took a shower, maybe you brush your teeth now, and the two biggest things that are falling in that realm is fluoride and triclosan. Fluoride I know, has a lot of mixed information because dentists are stating that fluoride is the best thing to keep your enamel strong and to keep your teeth healthy. But what we have to understand is that there is fluoride in the water, there is fluoride in your mouthwash, there is fluoride in your toothpaste and it is overkill at this point. And fluoride treatments when you go to the dentist.

Grace:

When you go to the dentist. And what research is starting to show is that it actually deposits in the pituitary gland. Which is located, if I were to show you a cross section of the face, the skull, the nose, the eyes and everything. The hypothalamus and pituitary sit sort of right behind the nose, the nose and the mouth. And so if you think about that location-wise, it makes a lot of sense as to why fluoride is building up and depositing in the pituitary. And then you bring into play the HPA axis, hypothalamus, pituitary, adrenals and how all of that is still so connected to the gut. So then we’ve got mood disorders, depression, unhealthy gut microbiome, but we’re pouring fluoride down our throats.

Dr. Nicole:

Well, to get real conspiracy theory on you guys, is that there’s actually been information and research that was released, that was in relation to the era of Nazi Germany, and that there was a lot of fluoride that was administered in order to see how docile the individual would be. So pretty much how compliant they would be, even for things that were irrational requests.

Dr. Nicole:

So fluoride is something that again in these high dosages, or long-term dosages, can affect the pineal gland. The pineal gland has a lot to do with your creativity, and it also has a lot to do with governing yourself, being empowered, thinking for yourself. So in the world that we live in, think about just school. School is training us for the workforce, it’s training us to follow rules, ask for your bathroom pass. For other people that listened to my other podcast, I’m so bad about the bathroom pass.

Grace:

I was just about to say we definitely talked about this last time.

Dr. Nicole:

I know. So bad about the bathroom pass. But it’s just, it’s always just rules, rules, rules, listen, listen, listen, don’t talk back, do what you’re supposed to do. And a lot of that is more capable when we are more toxic, and our certain functions of our brain are being suppressed so that we can just follow rules more easily.

Grace:

And it’s banned in the UK now.

Dr. Nicole:

All the stuff we’re talking about is banned-

Grace:

It’s banned in Europe, it’s banned in Russia.

Dr. Nicole:

It’s literally. So guys, we’re getting into breakfast now, and even talking about Kellogg’s cereal. When I was in Paris, because I wanted to prove it to myself, because I’ve heard how the ingredients in your Kellogg’s cereal is different in the U.S. versus in Europe. It’s 100% accurate. So in the U.S, we have a variety of different ingredients, including high fructose corn syrup, and bleached flours, brominated flours, and none of that is in the same exact cereal in Europe.

Dr. Nicole:

So it’s just they took a stand to say, “No, we’re not going to allow you to put this in our food because these are harmful chemicals and some of them are being classified as carcinogenic.” So when we talk about before breakfast, and we’re starting to get ready, male and female, all of this applies is, when we’re talking about a female we’re talking about, we’re applying makeup, we’re applying lotion. We’re doing our hair products, maybe we’re putting some perfume on, we’re adding our deodorant, maybe we’re putting on makeup that has SPF-

Grace:

Self tanner.

Dr. Nicole:

Self tanner. Oh, gosh, I’d look orange if I ever used that. If we’re currently on our cycle, we might be using tampons. And what we don’t realize is that depending on what type you’re using, every single one of those items is exposing you to an array of different types of toxins that your body presumes to be completely foreign, and that your immune system reacts to.

Grace:

And that can build up over time as well, so it’s something that may not be affecting you until you’re 22. And then things may start to go downhill from there, but of course, your first thought is what am I eating? What is the food I’m eating? What could be causing this? What am I exposed to in that way? And you’re not thinking about, like we were talking about before, the things you’ve used all along.

Dr. Nicole:

Well, I used to buy the economy pack of Tampax from Costco.

Grace:

Oh yeah.

Dr. Nicole:

It was the best thing ever because I would have tampons for a year, but… Did I tell you I did a toxicology report on tampons?

Grace:

On tampons? No.

Dr. Nicole:

Oh, yeah. And then I presented it to my predominantly male class, and-

Grace:

And they were like, “We don’t know.”

Dr. Nicole:

There was many comments. But when it comes to tampons, I think some of the most interesting things found is dioxin. Dioxin is a cancer causing chemical that is present in tampons. In certain tampons there was traces of fiberglass, the theory behind that is the fiberglass makes you bleed more so that you use more tampons, so more from an economic standpoint, and the cotton.

Dr. Nicole:

So at this point in time, the majority of cotton is genetically modified. So cotton tampons, if they are not organic, then chances are it is also genetically modified. So between the quality of the cotton and the dioxin, this is one of the things that we were mentioning earlier with the stripping of the vaginal microbiome. And if you strip the microbiome, now you’re more prone to yeast infections.

Grace:

Yeast infections, and yeah, and that’s why again, like I was saying, you could all of a sudden get a recurring yeast infection that you never had before, but it’s just because there’s nothing left at that point to protect.

Dr. Nicole:

A 100%. And one of the things we were talking about, to get real graphic on you guys, but let’s be real, is with males. With masturbation, very often they’re using some type of lubricant. And they’re using Vaseline, they’re using lotion, and we’re talking same chemicals. Vaseline is petroleum-based, and applying that to your member is absorbing directly through the skin, it’s absorbing into the lymph nodes of the groin. And the crazy thing about men is men, if they have some type of STD or they have some type of urinary tract infection, they don’t have symptoms.

Grace:

Yeah, it goes unnoticed.

Dr. Nicole:

It goes completely unnoticed, they don’t have symptoms, and then they eventually down the line, maybe end up with a prostate issue. Or they are now a carrier and spreading things to females and females tend to have more symptoms when they’re exposed to different types of bacteria.

Grace:

And the same thing can be said for female masturbation because then it’s a direct absorption, it doesn’t have to go through skin first. So we’re talking about this on both sides, but even that product, I can’t remember the name of it, oh, Summer’s Eve. Then women are using something like that maybe after intercourse, or maybe just in the shower as a “preventive measure” and there’s just-

Dr. Nicole:

Chemicals in that.

Grace:

straight chemicals in that.

Dr. Nicole:

Yeah, and the great thing about it is we’ve created so many different avenues for women to repair their vaginal microbiome and to help them heal from chronic urinary tract infections and chronic yeast infections and chronic bacterial vaginosis. And by the way, for you women that have been told, oh it’s HPV, and that’s why you have abnormal cells or an abnormal pap.

Dr. Nicole:

Did they test you for HPV? Did they get a blood test to say that you have that virus? Did they do a swab to tell you have that virus? It’s an assumption. It’s an assumption because you have abnormal cells that it’s 100% of the time HPV. But what if you have abnormal cells as an adaptation to the fact that you have chronic bacteria, chronic yeast, or maybe it started in your urinary tract and traveled to your vaginal tract, maybe vice versa?

Dr. Nicole:

But these are things that are being completely ignored, and it’s leaving women in a very scared state, which is then saying, “Oh, well, the only option is to get the HPV vaccine,” which has its own side effects. And really, at the end of the day, it’s really a matter of balancing the microbiome. All right guys, so now you get into your coffee, this is going to be the saddest part probably.

Grace:

So now you’re at Starbucks, you’re at Dunkin’ Donuts, you’ve waited in line, you’re ready to pay $8. And you get a half caf triple shot, pump, pump, pump of what do you say? Vanilla, mint, caramel, mocha, whatever the case may be, and we actually looked it up-

Dr. Nicole:

Well, my friend I was telling you she was crazy. She used to buy the giant one when it came out-

Grace:

Trenta.

Dr. Nicole:

And she used to get vanilla and mint. And in the size that she got, it was eight pumps of each.

Grace:

So we looked it up, the tall grande de vente and then trenta, you’re talking about are all different numbers of pumps that they just put in regardless. So then if you ask for extra, it’s already multiplied by the amount that would be in that size. And you could say sugar free and think that that’s better, but I could argue it’s worse because then there are artificial sweeteners that are causing bloating, gas, GERD, and so many other erosive gastrointestinal issues when you’re having them on a regular basis.

Dr. Nicole:

Well, the crazy thing about the sugar free stuff, and again, as we mentioned is, when we’re talking about sugar free sweeteners, this is in your toothpaste, this is in your mouthwash. This is in the gum that you chew.

Grace:

It’s in your cereal.

Dr. Nicole:

It’s in your cereal, but it’s also readily available in any diet based products or sugar-free based products. The interesting thing is that one of the primary amino acids that it affects is phenylalanine. And once you have abnormal levels of phenylalanine, then that in turn screws up your pancreas which regulates your blood sugar. So you’re you’re trying to be proactive and saying I’m going to not consume excess sugar so that I don’t gain weight or I don’t have blood sugar issues, or I don’t affect my diabetes, but you’re actually perpetuating the problem because the phenylalanine is a dictator of your blood sugar.

Grace:

Right. So it’s just blowing back on you.

Dr. Nicole:

A 100%.

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